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Callie Moderator
Posts : 1233 Join date : 2009-11-21 Location : St. Louis, MO USA
| Subject: Re: Conventional Oils painting demos translated to WSOs. Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:55 am | |
| Judy - it's looking good Janet - traditional glazing would be done in transparent colors so each layer helps to build up the final color. For the underpainting values, if white = 0 and black = 10, a 3 to 7 or 8 range is good. If you start too dark, you can't build up deep, rich shadow colors. The highlights/whites (opaque) come last, painted not glazed. But you can do whatever works for you. For example; on a landscape I did, after it dried I thought the background trees were too green, too bright - so I glazed over them with ultramarine to tone them down. | |
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judyfilarecki Moderator
Posts : 2685 Join date : 2009-11-16 Location : Northern NY and Southern Arizona
| Subject: Re: Conventional Oils painting demos translated to WSOs. Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:43 am | |
| Hi Janet and Callie, I'm glad you brought up the question of value. I had a feeling that I might have made the values too high so i would have trouble with the glazing. Now I'm not sure and will be anxious to see how it works. I'm also glad you mentioned that the highlights are painted on, not glazed. I was wondering how you got such perfect highlights simply by glazing. It is nine hours since I finished last night and I just checked to see if the painting was dry yet. It is a little too soon, but the good thing was that I could gently scrub off more paint to give the apple more variation in preparation for the glazing. So far I really like this technique...thanks....Judy | |
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Callie Moderator
Posts : 1233 Join date : 2009-11-21 Location : St. Louis, MO USA
| Subject: Re: Conventional Oils painting demos translated to WSOs. Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:49 pm | |
| Just keep your highlight area thin so it will be easy to get a bright white there. I keep picking on my apple, I put a few dabs of cad. red med. on it today for some lighter/brighter red in a few areas. So don't worry if your apple seems a bit dark. After you've glazed it and have the darks in place, you can switch to some opaque colors to shape and lighten it. From that point, paint as thick or thinly as you like. | |
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judyfilarecki Moderator
Posts : 2685 Join date : 2009-11-16 Location : Northern NY and Southern Arizona
| Subject: Re: Conventional Oils painting demos translated to WSOs. Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:30 pm | |
| Here's the next photo. I did the glazing with the alizarin crimson. I did find that I probably didn't wait long enough for the under painting to dry, but if I didn't over work a gazed area, it went on as I wanted. I also found that I could reactivate the paint in areas such as the background where I wanted to lighted it up some. You do have to resist going over an area such as my shadow, because the paint will lift. I'll just have to be patient and wait until tomorrow or the next day to do the next layer. I think I'll wait now until after the holiday. Judy | |
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Janet Moderator
Posts : 2050 Join date : 2009-11-15 Location : North Bay, Ontario Canada
| Subject: Re: Conventional Oils painting demos translated to WSOs. Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:59 pm | |
| Judy, your apple is looking great! I can see how glazes can give a painting depth. | |
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Callie Moderator
Posts : 1233 Join date : 2009-11-21 Location : St. Louis, MO USA
| Subject: Re: Conventional Oils painting demos translated to WSOs. Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:14 pm | |
| The color's looking good! | |
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Sofie Moderator
Posts : 713 Join date : 2009-11-27 Location : Courtenay, BC, Canada
| Subject: Re: Conventional Oils painting demos translated to WSOs. Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:19 pm | |
| Wonderful demo Callie! And good start on your apple Judy. I've never done any glazing so I'm watching all this with great interest. | |
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judyfilarecki Moderator
Posts : 2685 Join date : 2009-11-16 Location : Northern NY and Southern Arizona
| Subject: Re: Conventional Oils painting demos translated to WSOs. Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:42 pm | |
| Sofie, It's really fascinating. Just when you think "How can all these browns not deaden the colors in my apple?" you put the glaze on and suddenly the apple looks real, red and delicious. Thank you Callie. Hey! Did anyone else notice it is snowing in the forum? Janet...Have you been playing again or is it just my eyes? Judy | |
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Janet Moderator
Posts : 2050 Join date : 2009-11-15 Location : North Bay, Ontario Canada
| Subject: Re: Conventional Oils painting demos translated to WSOs. Thu Dec 24, 2009 1:37 pm | |
| Judy, I couldn't resist the snow. I saw it on another site and had to figure out how to do it. I do love to play. | |
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Linus
Posts : 131 Join date : 2010-02-01
| Subject: Demo's, etc Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:53 pm | |
| Well, Phillip certainly has the touch. And he lays to rest the idea that you can't really paint with WSO's(i.e. WM/s oils). I'm not into portraits but have done some in pencil. I am more interested in landscapes and pastorals. I did do a pencil portrait of myself using a mirrow. It turned out pretty good. See at www.edwardreinhart.com/ . Don't let your paints dry out. | |
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judyfilarecki Moderator
Posts : 2685 Join date : 2009-11-16 Location : Northern NY and Southern Arizona
| Subject: Re: Conventional Oils painting demos translated to WSOs. Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:21 pm | |
| - Linus wrote:
- Don't let your paints dry out.
The great thing is that the WS Oils don't dry out like acrylics. Judy | |
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Janet Moderator
Posts : 2050 Join date : 2009-11-15 Location : North Bay, Ontario Canada
| Subject: Re: Conventional Oils painting demos translated to WSOs. Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:37 pm | |
| Linus, very nice pencil sketch of yourself. | |
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kbaxterpackwood
Posts : 94 Join date : 2010-01-22 Location : Iowa
| Subject: Re: Conventional Oils painting demos translated to WSOs. Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:17 am | |
| thank you for starting this thread! | |
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