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adam matthew

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PostSubject: w&n thinner   Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:54 pm

I have read on another thread that the wn thinner can only be used with other wso paints that have a modified linseed oil as opposed to a wso paint with an added surfactant or other additive.
I have tried out some of the artisan paints, namely the pthalo blue , magenta and diarlyide yellow. 2 of the 3 were fine, but the yellow was hard as rock.
I have read that the wn line is inconsistent in its quality regarding the hardness/drying up of paint in the tubes and thus would like to try another brand.
For the way I paint however, the thinner would be very useful. Has anyone got any experience with using the the thinner with other brands of wso paints.
If so, could you let me know the results.
Many thanks,

Ps I have tried the wn painting medium and adding that to paint makes it hard to spread over large areas as it gets very tacky.
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PostSubject: Re: w&n thinner   Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:12 pm

I have used the W/N Thinner with Lukas Berlin and Cobras and they seem to work fine. I often use them mixed with Walnut Oil or other mediums. Can't really say how well the long-evity would be.
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adam matthew

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PostSubject: Re: w&n thinner   Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:47 am

thanks for the reply Dayle.

The below is quoted from the wiki description of wso, which states that these paints also have modified linseed oil. Nice to know that the usage of thinner is consistent with this.

Royal Talens - "Cobra" was introduced in 2010, as a professional grade water mixable oil colour, using a modified linseed oil. The range consists of 70 colours, 32 of them monopigmented and is compared in pigmentation and feel to Rembrandt professional oil colours. These paints can be mixed, thinned, as well as cleaned with water, or a series of mediums and varnishes are available to enhance the experience.
Winsor & Newton — "Artisan Water Mixable Oil Color", produced using modified linseed and safflower oil.[1]
Lukas — “Lukas Berlin” water mixable artists’ oil color, is a professional quality paint produced using selected pigments and modified linseed and sunflower oils as binders.

Has anyone used the w&n thinner with other types of wso paint. I am thinking holbein duo aqua, grumbacher or weber's offerings?

I live in South East Asia, so getting anything apart from w&n requires import and hefty shipping charges unless one orders a lot,which then makes it worthwhile. Buying 1 or 2 tubes to try things out works out very expensive.
You guys in the states with so many online options, many with free shipping got it real good.

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PostSubject: Re: w&n thinner   Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:48 am

The thinner works fine with the several Duos and Max paints that I have.

By the way, I've had similar consistency problems with Max paints as I have with Artisans, mostly stiffness. Not all of them but some. They're still useful, however.
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adam matthew

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PostSubject: Re: w&n thinner   Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:03 am

Many thanks David
Welcome the prompt reply.
I have been painting with oils for many years so the wsos are not completely alien to me. But the solvent element is.
Interesting times.

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PostSubject: Re: w&n thinner   Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:29 pm

Welcome to the forum. I'm glad members have been able to help you out. I've used the W/N thinner with W/N, Holbein Duo, and Cobra without problem.
The only ones I usually need them for are the W/N because they tend to be thick, but it works well with the others for thin under painting layers.


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