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Jim
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PostSubject: Traditional Oils (Would You Go Back?)   Traditional Oils (Would You Go Back?) EmptyThu Oct 13, 2011 4:07 am

Thought I would post this question simply because I am both curious and it may have not been asked already. My question is that after working with wso oils; would you go back to using traditional oil; why and why not?
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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Oils (Would You Go Back?)   Traditional Oils (Would You Go Back?) EmptyThu Oct 13, 2011 12:19 pm

Hi;

For a lot of people it is a matter of allergies to traditional oils (especially the mediums). For me it is also that they are so much easier to clean up and you don't have to use harsh stuff doing it. There are some schools where traditional oils are not allowed because of this.

As to the results one gets with WSO oils, I've been to a number of workshops where the instructors were traditional oil people. When they demonstrated something for me with my paints they had no difficulty with using them and several commented that they didn't see much handling difference (a few stiff Artisans were the one exception). I have been in a program where you copy museum paintings as a learning tool. The instructor gave color combination instructions from their knowledge of traditional oils and what was used in the originals. These allowed me to easily reproduce the colors of the originals with WSOs.

There are more colors available with traditional oils, especially if you use multiple brands. However, in the workshops I took here in Cody, Wyoming the four instructors all used different palettes and each of them made demo paintings that truly reflected the colors of this area. On my website there is a page with a couple of places to click to bring up charts showing the palette colors:

http://www.jmossmanart.com/600-Paint/paint.html#PAINTING

To me this shows that there is more than one way to color a cat, as it were. I am well satisfied with WSOs.

Jim
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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Oils (Would You Go Back?)   Traditional Oils (Would You Go Back?) EmptyThu Oct 13, 2011 9:16 pm

Allergies and easy clean up are what keep me sticking with wso"s. I have no desire to return to the traditional ones and have actually used wso's over traditional ones to correct some things in early paintings that needed improvement based on my growing experience as an artist.

Jim, Thanks so much for the link to your "Paint" page. Besides seeing more of your fantastic landscapes, I also gained a lot from your explanation of colors. It is definitely a link others should take a look at.
Judy
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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Oils (Would You Go Back?)   Traditional Oils (Would You Go Back?) EmptyFri Oct 14, 2011 7:16 am

Strong odors give my migraines and the clean up is really easy. I won't be going to traditional oils. Tried traditional oils after starting with WSOs and liked my WSOs better.
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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Oils (Would You Go Back?)   Traditional Oils (Would You Go Back?) EmptySat Oct 15, 2011 9:16 pm

I would like to say thank you to those who had taken the time to answer my question. I went to my local Hobby Lobby today (for the first time) and was happy to see that they carry wso paint!
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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Oils (Would You Go Back?)   Traditional Oils (Would You Go Back?) EmptyTue Oct 25, 2011 12:53 am

Hello!! Wow, I was considering on using traditional oils with the whole walnut oil thing. Do traditional oils on their own have a strong smell? What about ws oils? I would love to know this as I am so sensitive to strong smells I can't even be around a permanent marker.....
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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Oils (Would You Go Back?)   Traditional Oils (Would You Go Back?) EmptyTue Oct 25, 2011 4:58 pm

I believe that both Janet and Judy have allergies to contend with, but I know Judy said she had less troubles with Cobra WMOs. The Walnut oil has very little scent to it. I would also recommend that you get some Winsor & Newton Artisan WMO Thinner. The thinner is handy for your first layer, but can also be used with the Walnut Oil so that you can paint each layer with a little more oil, to stick to the Thick over Thin rule. I'd recomend just buying a couple of tubes of one brand to start with. The Walnut Oil and Artisan thinner can be used with all the different brands of paints. Good Luck!
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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Oils (Would You Go Back?)   Traditional Oils (Would You Go Back?) EmptyTue Oct 25, 2011 6:00 pm

Thank you Dayle!!! Very Happy

I actually heard that walnut oil based paints are thinner than linseed ones. And thin won't be great for me...

As they don't carry Cobras where I live, I can try the walnut oil paint they do sell here which is M.Graham. I can compare one tube of that to one tube of Artisan and see how I like them.

Any thoughts about Max paints?
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